This is our Action R/C Queensland Champs thread. We’ll post news and views leading up the even inside this thread – so check it often for changes. The Champs are 26-28 Sept 2008, at Bayside R/C in Brisbane.
Click here for entry form Word doc pdf
Click here for rules pages at ORRCA Qld website
Read on for all the news….
The TYRE and battery maze.
There appears to be a few new drivers around wanting to run the Qld Titles for the first time this year and some seem to be a bit confused about the tyre rules. The split up between ORRCA and AARCMCC for this years event makes it even more confusing with one system for 540 and Stock and a completely different system for Modified.
➡ Novice (540) and Stock – ORRCA system.
You will be required to purchase your own tyres, inserts and wheels and glue them up and present them for impounding before racing starts – preferably on the Friday at latest early Saturday morning. These will be marked with your number etc and kept in the impound. You can submit up to a maximum of three sets but can only have one set out of the impound at any time during qualifying. Once the qualifying is finished you can have all your sets out and you can mix and match from all sets for the finals. If you only wish to have one set for the event thats fine but once racing starts you can not submit any more tyres. Only Sorex 36 tyres can be used.
540 will also use a control motor which will be supplied at a cost to each competitor – it will be the grey can Johnson cat#583.
➡ Modified.
Tyres, inserts and wheels will all be controlled and will be supplied at a set cost.A maximum of 3 sets per competitor may be purchased for the qualifying. A further 2 sets will be available to drivers in the A final or they may use 2 sets of their qualifying tyres if they wish which will be remarked. Tyres will be Sorex 36 and inserts will be Sorex C medium but rims are not yet announced but will be within days. Drivers electing not to buy 3 sets before the start may not change their minds after racing starts and similarly drivers electing not to but their 2 sets for the finals may not change their minds after finals racing starts.
Batteries
Novice (540) and Stock
6 cell NIMH up to 4600 mah or LiPO as per the ORRCA or ROAR lists may be used.
Modified
5 cell NIMH only from the AARCMCC approved battery list
The novice class (540) has the following limitations on drivers eligible
“2.1.1.6 If driver/entrant has placed in the top 3 of any ORRCA QLD or AARCMCC sanctioned event, regardless of class or scale, the driver/entrant is not eligible for this class.”
There is no age limitation or requirement.
AARCMCC rules are here
ORRCA rules are here
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78 responses to “Queensland Onroad Titles 2008”
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I dont think too many drivers should be confused by the tyre rules as most that will run Mod have run under the AARCMCC rules before. If they haven’t they should aquaint themselves with the rule book. Hopefully next year we can all run Lipos and forget the NiMh batteries for good
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You would think that but believe me there is plenty of confusion around judging by the people that talk to me.
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Thanks heaps for this Heavy.
Makes things clear now that it is put in simple terms.
Can’t wait for the event.LikeLike
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So 540 isnt under 16 anymore? Sweet, I might have to play in 540.
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ORRCA have now agreed to email entries – entry forms above changed to reflect that.
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hi
heavy can we use 17.5 in the titlesLikeLike
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Extract from the ORRCA rules
1.1.1. Stock Class Motors, 27 turn, Fixed 24 deg, Motors:
1.1.1.1. Motors with bearings or bushings are allowed.
1.1.1.2. Motor timing must be (keyed into the end bell) fixed at 24 deg.
1.1.1.3. Motor Cans must have a maximum of two magnets only.
1.1.1.4. Brushes and brush hood will be lay-down configuration only.
1.1.1.5. No End-bell modifications allowed.
1.1.1.6. Brush springs are open.
1.1.1.7. Brushes shaping or modifying to allow timing advancement is prohibited.
1.1.1.8. Brush serrations and cavities are permitted but full face outline must remain.
1.1.1.9. The Timing Key in the End-Bell must not be worn to allow rotation.
1.1.1.10. Brushless Motors allowed
2.9.4.10.1 any commercially available ROAR approved 17.5t brushless motor allowed
2.9.4.10.2 sintered or bonded rotor allowed
motor must not be altered or modified from original state
➡ So I guess teh simple answer is – yes if it a ROAR approved one and not modified in any way.
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The Bayside club will run their annual BAYSIDE CUP on the Sunday prior to the Qld Titles. This will be the perfect chance to get a fair dinkum knock em down drag em out hit out for the titles for the electric guys and a great chance for non regulars to get a run on teh track under hard race conditions.
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First Email entry received today.
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Novice and Stock drivers please note – you have to supply your own tyres (Sorex 36). At the moment I have plenty at $10 per pair but don’t leave it till the last minute.
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Just confirming that Lipo can be used in Novice as it contradicts what it says in ORRCA rules. Cheers Heavy
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Yes – you can use LIPO in Novice – ORRCA decided this back in July but by an oversight the web site wasn’t updated – it should be now. Thanks to those who pointed this oversight out.
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will you be posting up a list of all of the drivers that have entered?
Andrew Abbott is the only other person that has mentioned that he will be flying up from vic. not sure about the Jovanovics or any of the others.
ps. david, dad will probably email you about tables and chairs some time soonish 😉LikeLike
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Hi Kirby.
For tables and chairs you need to call Doug Norton 0439217865, he is arranging those.
The entry list is available on the ORRCA web site http://www.orrcaqld.org.au
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Thanx,
I’ll pass it on.LikeLike
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Go Mr. Abbott, WIN it for TEAM HOTBODIES!!!
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Modified drivers please note – I have just heard from ORRCA that the handout rims are Speedmind not Proline
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I assume Dish style.
vaZZo, Mr. Abbotts with AE, lol.LikeLike
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Oops lol Who ever is running HB I hope they win then.
Good luck all, Ive sacrificed my BQ at teh titles for an A main at the Nitro Nationals. 😆LikeLike
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Vazzo,
Hot bodies has little chance as Anthony has switched to a Bentray (cos his wrenching skills are letting him down and needs a car with pre-built shocks and diff 🙄 ), and my Clone thou sold to an excellent driver will sadly not be attending the event. AE on the other hand has 3 solid chances with Mr Abbott, Scotty K and Swallow 😆 , all should be in attendance… 😀
Hope it’s well supported and everyone has a great time at the event and the racing is hard and fair!! Will be looking for the latest updates as time gets closer… 😉LikeLike
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I’ve been told that Steven Jovanovic’s flying up with Abbott, but his jumped from a HB cyclone to any car he wants, was running an xray but at the last meet he had a TRF415.
How big is Schumacher in QLD?LikeLike
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Seems to me it’s just about time to start making some random predictions for the 2009 Qld EP Onroad Championships. We’re a long way off a final entry list, but don’t let that stop you!
I propose that for this year’s tipping competition, the challenge is to nominate one winner, one dark horse, and one first time A finalist. Given that I have no idea about novice, I’ll not go there.
Stock:
Winner: Chris Shevelling
Dark Horse: Martin Nichols
First time A Final: Andrew Lyons
Modified:
Winner: Anthony Atack
Dark Horse: Kirby Masterman
First time A Final: Scott Kirchner
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Ok I said I wouldn`t be there but I thik I will run Sssss 17.5 😯
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Ah, in that case, you’re my new “Dark horse” for sssssssss (tock) 😛
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“new Dark Horse”… Giddy up !! 😆
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Entries are so slow coming in – here’s what we have so far (17/09/08)
ENTRIES:
NOVICE
Shane Hyde
Rhys McAuley
Mitchell Hollis
Chance Karlsson
Robert Tyler
Doug Norton
Gary Sturdy
Chris Sturdy
Brett Russow
Rex Creed
Tony Porter
Stuart Pearson
STOCK
Shane Hyde
Jeremy McAuley
Bob vardy
Clinton Livingstone
Shayne Pierce
Karl Yueng
Paul Fahey
Matthew Hodder
Tony Lewis
Andrew Lyons
Rex Creed
Daniel Lucas
Reece Christensen
Nicolas Orr
Jason Wakefield
Michael Sherman
MODIFIED
Kirby Masterman
Adrian Rice
Tim Weier
Drew Crawley
Leonard Lai
Scott Kirchner
Paul Johnsen
Andrew Abbott
Tristian HydeLikeLike
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My Predictions
Novice
Winner: Rob Tyler
Dark Horse: Shane Hyde 😆
Stock:
Winner: Clinton Livingstone or Bob Vardy
Dark Horse: Chris Shevelling
Modified:
Winner: John Perkins or Anthony Atack
Dark Horse: Leonard LaiLikeLike
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I’m having a bit of trouble finding out information,
a) will traction compound be allowed
b) where are we allowed to pit surrounding the track
c) where are we allowed to park our cars
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I’m pretty sure the club will direct you all where to park and pit etc.
My guess is park in the car park between the road and the track or up on the rise toward the trains – there are no trains that weekend so parking shouldn’t be a problem.
Pit in the covered pit area or bring a shade tent a pit on the level grassed area at the mug handle end.
Traction compound can be used for the Titles.LikeLike
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Thanks for the answers, was thinking of pitting down the back corner along the back straight.
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Note to all using LIPO in Novice540 or Stock. You have to use a low voltage cut out, you have to charge in a LIPO sack of somesort and you have to use hard case batteries that are listed on either the ORRCA list or the ROAR list. Also if you are using brushless motors in stock they must be 17.5 motors that are specifically listed on the ROAR list. If in doubt check at the Bayside Cup.
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So I wonder is the onus on the racer to prove that our gear is legit? does it mean I have to provide, receipts, manuals or anything for all my gear?
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You just have to race with stuff that is on the motor and battery list etc etc.
The onus is always on the racer to comply with the rules.LikeLike
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I might just list what I have, to save any headaches on the day,
Stock – Speed Passion 17.5, Novak XBR Speedy with Lipo Cutoff – Orion Platinum 4800 Lipo
540 – Harris RC 3200 hardcase lipo, Novak GTX, Novak smart stop
I think it’s alright but I just want to checkLikeLike
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You will still need to submit to teh scrutineers on teh day and anything I say here is just my opinion.
The speed controls are open so there’s no problem there.You have LIPO cut offs so thats fine.Battereis are both on the ROAR list so they are ok provided the case isn’t modified in any way and they are identifiable. The SP 17.5 is fine also provided it’s not modified in any way.
You just have to worry about weights and measures now.LikeLike
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So it is mandatory to have a LIPO cut out???
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So is this the correct list for Brushless stock motors?? 4
Approved Stock Brushless Motors (as at February 2008)
• LRP Vector X11 Stockspec 17.5T
• Novak 3417SS 17.5 Pro
• Hacker E-40 17.5T
• Losi Xcelorin 17.5 LOSAB9406LikeLike
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Robert,
here is a list of approved brushless motors
http://www.roarracing.com/approvals/brushlessmotors.php
That’s the list that ORRCA go by.LikeLike
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Thanks Ash.
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I had thought that orrca ruled that lipo users must have a cutoff equipped speed control, or separate cutoff unit, but I can’t find it in the ORRCA Qld rules. Anybody?
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See rule 2.8.5.10
2.8.5.10 Must be used with electronic speed control that has a either a inbuilt cut-off or used with an external cut-off device installed (6volts minimum).LikeLike
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Thank you for taking the time to answer everyone’s questions.
Cheers
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So here we are, just over a week out. What are the questions to be answered next week…..
1. Can anybody beat clinton?
2. How will the scrutineers keep their heads straight while managing one set of rules for Novice and Stock, and another set for modified?
3. Will this be the last state championship race for 5-cell mod in Australia?
4. Can Anthony Atack draw ahead of Peter Dooley in the State Championship count? 😯
5. How will i survive not being there? 😦LikeLike
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I’ll give it a shot…
1. Yes
2. Probably wont
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. Cheap flights 😉LikeLike
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Question with regards to the Noivce class –
2.1.1.6 If driver/entrant has placed in the top 3 of any ORRCA QLD or AARCMCC sanctioned event, regardless of class or scale, the driver/entrant is not eligible for this class
Is the SE QLD Interclub a AARCMCC or ORRCA affiliated meet? If so would this rule top 3 place getters out of this class?LikeLike
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Robert…
I think ORRCA only holds 2 sanctioned meetings a year…Qld On-Road and Qld Off-Road Titles. So I think you are safe if you haven’t travelled down south for a Title meet or I guess competed in a Nitro sanctioned event as well.
Make that 3 for ORRCA I guess…forgot the Qld Gas Titles coming up.
Some correct me if I am incorrect.LikeLike
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Question 4. I predict thick fur rolled in a ball!!! 🙄 😆
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Now he’s racing a TC5 he should be a big chance.
After todays racing you’d have to be having a small wager on Scott K. I reckon.LikeLike
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Young Corey Broadstock is definately one to watch in Mod next weekend. He was certainly on fire today.
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with most of teh entries known now my tips are as follows
Novice – Nham – Sturdy – Pearson.
Stock – Livingstone – Mackrill – Sherman
Mod – Kirchner – Atack – AbbotLikeLike
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