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What started out as just another club race day turned out to be a very intetesting on on a couple of fronts.
Firstly gas. There was a noticeable absence of drivers for both classes today. Especially Open where the number was well down. I had the chance to race my R12 in Gas Tourer again today prior to it being mothballed again until Interclub 3. I qualified 3rd and was sittting comfortably in 2nd with about 3 laps to go in the 10 minute A final until the wheel fell off – almost. Oh well it was a good day anyway.
STOCK
In stock today there was only 12 but what we lacked in quantity we sure made up for in quality. The A final looked something like this – check out these names
1. Keith Mackrill     –  HPI Pro 4
2. Damian Barnier  – Cycone
3. Jason Wakefield – Tamiya Evo 5
4. Bob Vardy        –  Cyclone
5.  Adrian Beggs   – Academy STR4 Pro11
6. John Perkins     – RDX
With names like that in the A, the mere mortals in the B could have been excused for thinking  they had run over the black cat – they were all doing personal bests and still not doing enough. Basically a 17 lapper was required to make the A – it’s not that long ago that you could easily be in the A with a 16 lapper. The other interesting thing about that is that there are 5 brands in the top 6 cars – very good and interesting.
The real interest for me was having Adrian back from his illness and driving again, and as he is between cars I asked him to drive my Academy, just to take the opportunity of getting a good driver into the car and a second opinion on some of my thoughts.
Adrian said “Hey Dave,Thanks again for the car etc for today. Thoroughly enjoyed myself.Thinking about the performance of the Academy it wasn’t to bad. If you take Keith’s FTD and mine there was approx. 13 sec difference. Over 5 minutes that works out to be 2.6 secondsslower per minute. Not to shabby. Over the rest of the field it was only around 1.3 seconds per minute slower and in some cases even less.
As you say a little work on the drivetrain/ bearings and lightening the car up a bit you might get back some of that.
Adrian ”
The car is heavy at around 1600gr and there are some things we can do about that and will. Also some better quality bearings or a flush out of all the bearings will probably help. The weight is more critical at a track like Bayside with all the uphill hairpins to pull out off. Especially on a club day where I doubt if many of the other cars were at legal weight. The car handles well and is as good as the best in most area of the track. I am still impressed and the car is certainly impressing a few others as well. It’s always made the A final at every meet we’ve run it at so far (Brendale Winter Champs, Logan Winter Cup, and the World Titles at Bayside last weekend) so that’s a pretty good recomendation.
MOD
Today there was a good field of mod. Anthony continued to run 4 cell and if you check the results you will see that he TQ’d and won the final by a fair margin and did a time within a whisker of Cookies State Titles winning run last year. Now Anthony, I know we don’t know what weight all the other guys were running on Sunday and I have no doubt some of them would be light but, for a fair test, I reckon you should be running the car as a 4 cell, but at 1520. Within the rules as they stand you can run 4 cell legally but to do so you must run 1520.
Our intrepid EC driver ran out 4th, same as he qualified.
Full results here
  I always manage to enjoy the day at Bayside and again thanks to Mark Richards who puts in so much work on the day, ususally at teh expense of his own racing.
 
 

8 responses to “BAYSIDE – Sunday 30th July.”

  1. scott Avatar

    Not that I want to make a habbit of disagreeing with my dad, but on this occasion I do!
    I think testing the 4-cell car at a representative weight (not ballasted up to 1500) is the only way to go. If we went 4-cell we would definitely want to reduce the weight limit – so comparing the 4 cell car at about 1370 grams against the 6 cell car at 1500 is a far comparison – we’re seeing what the whole package result is.

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  2. Heavy Avatar

    All good but….. I know how difficult it is to get rules changed and this one has the potential to be more difficult than others, so if you want to run 4 cell you are going to have to do it within the current rules. (I’m not talking about testing necessarily but actually running it at more than a club event)

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  3. Peter D Avatar
    Peter D

    I’m very interested in the goings on with all the 4-cell testing. My major concern with all the opinions/ideals around the current problems with Modified is the potential of “throwing the baby out with the bath water”.
    Before anyone locally started testing, I would have thought that dropping to 4-cell would have brought back the Battery Wars of the late 90’s. So far it doesn’t seem to be the case, but if we maintained the weight of 1520g for 4-cell, my guess it would be a factor…..
    Would like to see the result of 4-cell at 1520g weight if someone has enough lead…lol

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  4. scott Avatar

    Surely we wouldn’t/couldn’t retain a 1520 weight limit if we went to 4 cell. That would kill it. I think the reason times and performances are good is largely due to the loss of 120 or so grams. Might even be better for tyre life as well….

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  5. Heavy Avatar

    I agree “if we go to 4 cell” then we should be pushing for a weight limit reduction at the same time, but realistically, I think that’s a way off. All I’m saying is that if you want to run 4 cell legally at the moment – say at Interclub 3 or even the 2006 Nationals then you’ll need to be doing it at 1520.
    Peter – Getting a car up to 1520 is no problem just leave the 2 disconnected cells in place.
    I suppose there is no reason why ORRCA Qld couldn’t go to 4 cell without the rest of the country (seeing we probably race in the hotest conditions) but is that a good idea ?

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  6. scott Avatar

    Or better yet, could ORRCA Qld allow 4 cell cars a weight break. Say 1380 with timing equipment. That might allow people to make a realistic choice to run 4 cell alongside 6 cell cars and still be competitive.
    To put something concrete on the table, could the SEQ Clubs group lead the country and make such an allowace for the 3rd round of the interclub series?

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  7. Josh p Avatar
    Josh p

    what about having 2 different weights and if a tech inspector finds your running 6 cells at 1480g then ur disqulaifed, i think for a while u will need to weight untill either 6 or 4 cell dies out.
    is what im saying making sense?

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  8. Heavy Avatar

    Next week I will be doing some 4 cell testing at Bayside – to test the theory ” 4cell might make mod a more attractive jump for stock drivers”. I will be running Scotts EC with the 4.5 brushless running 4 cell.

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